As a boatswain i sailed the waters of this globe . Yet in my old days i started in eve in a velator not really knowing what to do . Met a guy in space and joined his corp . Learned to earn my own isk's by mining .Now a day i reprocess the ore into minerals and manufacture goods with it . If too short i buy it with the isk from ice mining , salvaging and P.I. need also isk to buy several parts for ships etc. ........................................So please , don't gang me or shoot me down ...........................realizing that the ship in which you are flying with his modules,amo etc. could well be made by me . ..................Yust manufactured two nice amarr ships -armageddon- to fly for my other char and the market .